Go Back   American Sedan Forum > Main American Sedan Categories > American Sedan Rules

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 02-05-2011, 01:46 PM
CobraR05
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

seam welding? i understand what you are saying, but based on current rules there is next to nothing about an FR500C that is AS legal. That was really not the point.

But it is a reminder that I couldnt even strip this car down and make an AS car from it.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 02-07-2011, 12:50 PM
Tim White Tim White is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 340
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraR05 View Post
seam welding? i understand what you are saying, but based on current rules there is next to nothing about an FR500C that is AS legal. That was really not the point.

But it is a reminder that I couldnt even strip this car down and make an AS car from it.
While I am all for getting new cars in the class using the limited prep rules I have no idea why we should be concerned with the FR500C.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 02-07-2011, 03:37 PM
tellis#51sediv
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Fred,
Just as info, I did end up buying Jason's car. After speaking to Chuck it made more sense from a cost standpoint to do this rather than try to build a car from scratch.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 02-08-2011, 12:16 AM
Fred Hetherwick Fred Hetherwick is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Jackson, Michigan
Posts: 111
Default

Knowing what it takes to build one from the ground up, I think that was a very good decision. Very well built car! It was actually the first S197 builtAndy and I were still in SN95s when Jeff rolled that car out. I look forward to seeing you in it!
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 02-08-2011, 09:04 AM
CobraR05
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim White View Post
While I am all for getting new cars in the class using the limited prep rules I have no idea why we should be concerned with the FR500C.
tim, i am asking questions about the future. are you guys projecting 5L pushrod/carburated engines with small tires and brakes 10 years from now?

i could be wrong, but my take is that most of you guys are putting down as much hp and tq to the wheels as a fr500c. the wheels and brakes are factory size pieces.

thats my question. there area a ton of nasa american iron cars out there that run the same sort of lap times that AS cars do and it would strike me as prudent to try and find an accomidation to evolve AS toward the future.

That or create a national class that does that itself.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 02-09-2011, 04:21 AM
Ted Johnson Ted Johnson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 976
Default We need these in the class as well.

__________________
.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 02-09-2011, 09:34 AM
Danny"TheKid"Richardson Danny"TheKid"Richardson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Posts: 444
Default

lol Ted that would be the first car where you would focus on getting it DOWN to weight instead of adding for it to be competitive. Honestly one of the first steps to allowing the newer body style cars would be to open the rim diameter size rules. All the new cars are coming with 18s or more. For the drag strip i am squeezing 18 in front z06 rims on my 2010 camaro just to put some sticky on my hiney.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 02-09-2011, 10:07 AM
CobraR05
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

what engine would be allowed in the mopar? an old 340?

agree on the wheels. its a fact of life. though i get a chuckle at looking at an S197 mustang that is designed for 18's and above sitting on 16's.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 02-09-2011, 05:56 PM
Tim White Tim White is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 340
Default

I believe they can run the factory wheel as long as they stay with the factory brakes. Go to 12" rotors, etc. and you have to run 16" wheels. I still don't see how the limited prep rules cannot be extended to these vehicles.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 02-09-2011, 09:29 PM
2manycars
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I've gotta say I must agree with Tim. If they found a way to allow the 1st generation CTS-V's to run as limited prep then the newest generation of muscle cars should be do-able with the limited prep structure that has been established. I think the big question would be how long would it take for these cars to be allowed to be competitive. I think the rules are slanted as is towards the old style AS car, I mean they almost have to be. Why else would all but one driver at the Runoffs not want a newer car with FI. And maybe I am incorrect but that's how I see it as an outside observer. I'm looking at buying my first race car and it will probably be a LS1 powered limited prep car. I am buying this car for many reasons but certainly not because I think it is a competitive car at a national level. My only hope is that the newer generations (Yes it is now multiple generations) of cars are allowed to be competitive before long or I too have fears for the sustainability of this class.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.