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Old 03-04-2021, 09:25 AM
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LOL

Ted, so you don't want to do the work or invest the $$$ to race ? Just have someone give you the info they worked very hard over a years to develop.


Would it be fair, to all the Felice engine owners, of me to list all the info you requested ?
OK Ted, I'll make you a deal.
You invest the time, work and $$, that any class in racing requires and I'll give you the info you requested at your first race.

If you want to race on the cheap, I hear you can put together a B spec for about 20K, That's after you've done all the development before you start.

Let me know.
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:15 AM
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Fair enough

I'll settle on the price tag on those costs
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:29 PM
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Refresh, somewhere in the 5K range. I'm getting 4 years out of the engines with only, oil changes, spark plugs and changing the valve springs every other year. Valve springs are $350.
Full prepped carb, $900 from Pro systems

Food for thought, I missed a shift at Road America, 1st gear instead of 3rd, the engine was at 9500 rpm for a couple of seconds. I spun and bearing, otherwise no damage. Cheap fix.

What do you need to get running ? And how can I help ?

I honestly would like to come back.

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Old 03-04-2021, 12:36 PM
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To all the back markers out there.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/fdd5f22...d-89dc1c8b13e2
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:54 PM
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Did you say 5k refresh annually or every 4 years?
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:58 PM
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And we have been kicking the 450 hp number around thanks to Jim, but we haven't asked you?. Are you at or beyond 450 hp
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Old 03-04-2021, 01:13 PM
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Every 4 years, if needed. We check timing chain, leak down etc. The heads are the limiting facture. Crap heads, crap results. The Edy heads were designed to do what we do with them. To bad Vic Edelbrock died, we would still have heads available.
Just under 450 the carb is the limiter.
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Old 03-04-2021, 01:21 PM
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How easily can a competent engine builder achieve Ken's results having never seen a/s rule limitations? How many heads and intakes did it take get get to this level?
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Old 03-04-2021, 01:53 PM
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Alot of guys sent their heads and intakes to Wilson to have them cut apart, ported and welded back together. They are very good at it. It's not cheap. I've seen some of them in tech over the years. Felice hand ports all of the heads and intakes for their AS FP engines. One set of heads and an intake per motor. No test, disguard and try again happening. Ken Felice has been an engine builder for over 50 years. Can other engine builder duplicate one of their engines, I should amagine. Most engine buolders have their own style and approach. I've heard numbers alot higher than ours so who knows.
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Old 03-04-2021, 01:57 PM
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The engine rules are fairly straight foward. Now that the rules include good internal parts, a good engine builder can make a strong, reliable, front running FP engine. You can talk to Felice, Haper, Hutter, Pam's guy, Jim's guy..... They are all making good power and reliability.
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