AS (Limited Prep) Question

seam welding? i understand what you are saying, but based on current rules there is next to nothing about an FR500C that is AS legal. That was really not the point.

But it is a reminder that I couldnt even strip this car down and make an AS car from it.

[Tim White]

Originally Posted by CobraR05

seam welding? i understand what you are saying, but based on current rules there is next to nothing about an FR500C that is AS legal. That was really not the point.

But it is a reminder that I couldnt even strip this car down and make an AS car from it.

While I am all for getting new cars in the class using the limited prep rules I have no idea why we should be concerned with the FR500C.

Fred,
Just as info, I did end up buying Jason's car. After speaking to Chuck it made more sense from a cost standpoint to do this rather than try to build a car from scratch.

Tom

[Fred Hetherwick]

Knowing what it takes to build one from the ground up, I think that was a very good decision. Very well built car! It was actually the first S197 builtAndy and I were still in SN95s when Jeff rolled that car out. I look forward to seeing you in it!

Originally Posted by Tim White

While I am all for getting new cars in the class using the limited prep rules I have no idea why we should be concerned with the FR500C.

tim, i am asking questions about the future. are you guys projecting 5L pushrod/carburated engines with small tires and brakes 10 years from now?

i could be wrong, but my take is that most of you guys are putting down as much hp and tq to the wheels as a fr500c. the wheels and brakes are factory size pieces.

thats my question. there area a ton of nasa american iron cars out there that run the same sort of lap times that AS cars do and it would strike me as prudent to try and find an accomidation to evolve AS toward the future.

That or create a national class that does that itself.

[Ted Johnson]

[Danny"TheKraken"Richardson]

lol Ted that would be the first car where you would focus on getting it DOWN to weight instead of adding for it to be competitive. Honestly one of the first steps to allowing the newer body style cars would be to open the rim diameter size rules. All the new cars are coming with 18s or more. For the drag strip i am squeezing 18 in front z06 rims on my 2010 camaro just to put some sticky on my hiney.

what engine would be allowed in the mopar? an old 340?

agree on the wheels. its a fact of life. though i get a chuckle at looking at an S197 mustang that is designed for 18's and above sitting on 16's.

[Tim White]

I believe they can run the factory wheel as long as they stay with the factory brakes. Go to 12" rotors, etc. and you have to run 16" wheels. I still don't see how the limited prep rules cannot be extended to these vehicles.

I've gotta say I must agree with Tim. If they found a way to allow the 1st generation CTS-V's to run as limited prep then the newest generation of muscle cars should be do-able with the limited prep structure that has been established. I think the big question would be how long would it take for these cars to be allowed to be competitive. I think the rules are slanted as is towards the old style AS car, I mean they almost have to be. Why else would all but one driver at the Runoffs not want a newer car with FI. And maybe I am incorrect but that's how I see it as an outside observer. I'm looking at buying my first race car and it will probably be a LS1 powered limited prep car. I am buying this car for many reasons but certainly not because I think it is a competitive car at a national level. My only hope is that the newer generations (Yes it is now multiple generations) of cars are allowed to be competitive before long or I too have fears for the sustainability of this class.