Results: Thunderhill Double Natl

[Danny"TheKraken"Richardson]

Actually one of the regional guys, an ex pinto driver, gave me the name. But it seems i should retire it hahaha.

[jimwheeler]

Ok then. If it came from a Pinto driver it could easily be left behind. Good to see the young guns coming on.
wheel

[abaileyracing]

Originally Posted by jimwheeler

Danny "The old Kid" will soon be just Danny "the old" with this crowd.
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I think Danny "The Kid" Richardson works out just fine.

I'm 25 for those who are wondering....I already feel old!

Kevin, Danny, Darryl, Scott, Wheel, and Dylan with Rootbeer....

-Aaron

[kbsmith1]

Here's a couple of pics of the wheel that failed in the 2nd race.
These were centerline sundance wheels. Clearly they are not up to
the demands of racing. The wheel that failed was brand new 15 months ago
and has only been used in about 7 races.

[thomas toth]

Aaron, it would be great if you would share some details on your car ie: what has been done , exhaust, shocks, springs, wheels, engine build up. I honestly believe if the class is going to grow (survive) it will be in the limited prep cars. The cost of our cars needs to come way, way down to spark an interest once again.

Tom
#38 Camaro
full prep

[DBailey]

Thomas,

Before Info about the car I think all who read this should be aware that it is Car and Driver--and Aaron has been driving this car since 2006 and T-hill is our home track. He has multiple records at this track dating from his Go Kart days.
The Car was a Phoenix T-2 car we purchased after the runoffs in 2005 and had been built from a wrecked 2001 Firebird. Engine, Clutch, Trans, --Stock.
Diff. has appropriate gears for track, LSD unit, otherwise stock. Brakes-Stock, Hawk Pads, no ABS. Dash, Door Panels(partial) wiring still in place. I have worked considerably on suspension, but it uses Koni Shocks, Stock mounting points. Used wheels from craigslist, BF Goodrich Tires. We are still down on power compared to a National Full Prep Engine.

In my opinion, there are two points to be made here--
One--Driver--A good Skilled Driver is worth 50 hp, there is no substitute for track time!
Two--The Limited Prep F-bodys can be competitive for a very reasonable price if your money is spent wisely and you
do much of the work yourself. This goes for the LT1 cars and the LS1 Cars.
In addition the engines should last for several seasons (i.e. with an under 6,500 redline). I think the 4.6 mustangs can be included as being competitive when we figure out how to help them in the power dept.

I hope this helps

Dean

Opinions expressed above are mine---so there!!

[thomas toth]

That is what I was hoping you would say! Okay, aside from the Phoenix car to start with IF someone was going to build a clone of Aaron's car from a street car, doing the work himself (or herself) what would it cost? Could it be built for under $20K??? I'm excited about the idea because we need a lower cost entry point that can be competitive and reasonably reliable. The weight reduction was a good call. I will admit I was against the whole limited prep deal at first but if it can help build the class I'm all for it.

Tom
#38 Camaro

[DBailey]

Tom,

If one found an LT1-6spd base car for under 4k one could come close to our car for around 10k, maybe 15k absolute maxx---

Dean

Hey Dean, I am still willing to sell the sister car to yours to whomever. There are a few minor differences, but to set it up just like Aarons car would not be hard nor expensive at all.

I neither have the time or money for this and my truck and trailer are gone. Was thinking of making it into a local track day car, but I would sell it.

Please contact me if you are interested for pics work done, etc. Only Aaron Dean, and Bill S. have seen the car and can substantiate - and Phoenix perf, of course. The car can race in AS tomorrow as is.

Thanks,

Evan

[thomas toth]

e-mail me your contact information....John Blanchard may be looking to buy an LS1 F Body. Send it to tgtoth@aol.com, pictures would be great.

Thank You
Tom